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Copper grade comparison

#1 vs #2 Copper Scrap: Identification and Value Differences

Compare common No. 1 and No. 2 copper scrap characteristics, learn why cleanliness changes recovery, and estimate each grade separately.

Separated copper grades beside a receipt and organized ScrapValue record
Keep visibly different copper conditions separate so the yard can classify and quote each group clearly.

Your outcome

What this guide helps you do

Recognize the visible issues that often separate cleaner copper from coated, soldered, or contaminated copper before asking a yard to grade it.

Key takeaways

  • No. 1-style copper is generally cleaner and easier to recover than No. 2-style copper, but the receiving yard's specification controls.
  • Solder, paint, plating, heavy oxidation, oil, and attachments can change how copper is bought.
  • Never assume the cleaner rate applies until the yard confirms the material and quote.

The practical difference between #1 and #2 copper

In common scrap trading language, No. 1 copper describes relatively clean, unalloyed copper solids, wire, or tube that meet the buyer's condition rules. No. 2 copper allows more recoverable copper with issues such as coatings, solder, paint, plating, oxidation, or other contamination. Exact size, composition, and allowable attachment rules vary by specification and yard.

That difference matters because cleaner feedstock can require less sorting and processing before remelting. It does not mean every shiny piece is No. 1 or every dark piece is No. 2. Surface appearance is one clue; construction, alloy, coatings, and attachments matter more than a single color test.

Identification checklist before you call the yard

Inspect all sides and freshly accessible ends without grinding or damaging a usable item. Clean tube with no soldered joints, paint, or fittings may be a candidate for a cleaner grade. Tube with solder, fittings, paint, or other metal belongs in a separate group. Copper wire with insulation belongs with insulated wire unless it has been safely and completely stripped and otherwise meets the yard's clean-wire rules.

Keep tinned copper, burned wire, hair wire, copper-clad material, and unknown red alloys separate. A magnet can reveal some steel but cannot distinguish unalloyed copper from brass, bronze, or nonmagnetic contamination. When in doubt, send a clear photo or bring a sample if the buyer permits it.

  • Cleaner candidate: uncoated copper with no solder, paint, fittings, insulation, or non-copper attachments.
  • Lower-cleanliness candidate: copper with recoverable metal but visible coating, solder, oxidation, or contamination.
  • Separate category: insulated cable, motors, radiators, mixed assemblies, and unknown alloys.

Calculate the two grades as separate lines

Imagine you have 22 pounds the yard confirms as its No. 1 grade and 11 pounds it confirms as No. 2. With quoted rates N1 and N2 per pound, the estimate is (22 × N1) + (11 × N2). Keeping the weights separate preserves the real structure of the offer.

A common mistake is multiplying all 33 pounds by the No. 1 quote because most of the pile looks clean. Another is using an old online rate with no yard, timestamp, or condition attached. Use a current quote for the exact grades and record when and how you received it.

Sort for clarity, not for a guessed upgrade

Separate obvious clean copper from soldered, coated, or attached material. Ask whether removing a fitting changes the entire piece's grade and whether the added preparation is worth doing. Some buyers apply their own thresholds, and a few minutes of preparation can be useful while an hour of destructive processing may not be.

Do not burn, chemically strip, or unsafely grind material. Avoid processing sealed equipment, energized conductors, refrigerant systems, and unknown industrial components. Follow the yard's accepted-material rules and local law.

Use the sale to improve the next comparison

Save the quote, home weight, photos, and assumed grade before the trip. After the scale, enter the yard's actual classification and weight beside the payout. If the buyer moved material from No. 1 to No. 2, record the stated reason while it is fresh.

Over several trips, the record can reveal which preparation steps consistently matter at that yard. It can also show when the difference was scale weight or market movement rather than grade, which keeps the next sorting decision grounded in evidence.

Sources and further reading

ScrapValue provides planning estimates and informational market context. It is not a binding quote, appraisal, offer, forecast, safety instruction, or tax advice. Verify prices, grades, accepted materials, and rules directly with the receiving yard.

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